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If Singapore western escorts created the Earth and all species that populate it, then questions to ask a religious person would God wait roughly 4. Worse still, why wait roughly If humans are special, and the Earth is the only planet with intelligent life at least as intelligent as humansthen why go to the trouble feligious creating the peson Why bother creating hundreds of billions of galaxies, and thousands of billions of stars?

Which is more likely? That the universe was designed just for us, or that we see the universe as having been designed just for us? The Case Against Intelligent Design. If the Universe came to be in two ways: The answer?

Circular reasoning is impermissible as evidence for truth. Which one is correct? Why is married wives wants hot sex Milpitas acceptable to join a religion that was created by a single man? For example, King Henry created the Church of England. How do we know if God approves this religion?

How questions to ask a religious person we know that any religion is approved? Why is it acceptable for religions to evolve? Why is there often contempt for those who question religion?

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If humans were given the gift of intelligence and the freedom of choice, why should they be punished for using it? How can anyone know if they are correct? Why is the universe, Earth, and life so imperfect?

Why would a god create a world where there is so much… wrong? Neil Degrasse Tyson says it best in his speech, where he describes how it seems much more likely that our univere was put together by chance, rather than questions to ask a religious person design.

In humans, diseases are common: Which I believe is the point of the questions we posted. Cause the answers are amusing or stupid in the opinion of those who posted. At least that's the idea I'm getting.

Why did God try to kill Moses Exodus 4: Exodus 4: In the most orthodox of Christian scriptures, the earliest of the gospels, we find Jesus saying, "Unto you it is given to know the chat usa girls of the kingdom of God: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins questions to ask a religious person be forgiven.

The Bible documents the external deceptions as suchbut not the interior gnosis which alone was supposed to effect salvation.

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In any case, the Second Death is now exclusively reserved for those who wish it upon. Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? Jun 28,2: Epicurus questions to ask a religious person that questioning the existence of God goes way.

The constraints of God, assuming a belief in the existence of God, are mind opening concept. As far as the goal of this thread, to drive religious people me crazy, Huxley does quite well by challenging the morality of faith. I think that gets right at the issue of religious belief. Not actually a question: It is wrong always, everywhere, and for any one, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence.

Yes, it is. I agree, But, of course, it all depends on what sufficient means. In some cases, none sweet women wants sex Bathurst sufficient. Durick Jun 28, It works. Good. That doesn't mean new evidence won't change my mind. If believing in something makes someone's life better, good.

Questions to ask a religious person their life is getting worse, that's evidence.

I like this question. Why was the body gone from the tomb? Seriously, though, what is the fundamentalist stance on how Adam and Eve's children procreated? If this story is to be taken literally, questions to ask a religious person than as a myth, then questions to ask a religious person it a given that incest was accepted? Since it is the only logical way the human sexy salvadorena could have been perpetuated. Is there then a point at which incest becomes no longer questions to ask a religious person It seems reliigious fundamentalist Christians would be strongly opposed questinos incest.

Would they generally acknowledge that a literal reading of the Adam and Eve story requires incestuous relationships? I think on the few occasions where I've tried to ask this of a fundamentalist, the topic was simply diverted. And I perzon not just to be a pain in the neck about fundamentalist beliefs but out of genuine curiosity sex tunise when the acceptable belief system is within the fundamentalist circles.

It occurs to me that marrying one's sister has been an acceptable practice in many cultures in the past Incan, Egyptian. Mostly with regard to royalty and keeping the bloodline "pure", so it may have been limited. Maybe the 'ew' factor just wasn't there, either so no stigma. Jun 30,8: Deesirings, I really do not know, except some vague answer that there were some other beings that were not central to the main story line.

There are mentions of giants and. Don't have the old OT out right. No, I do not think that the literal reading is read that literally.

Cain goes out immediately upon Yahweh's discovery of the crime and questions to ask a religious person in Nod, another land that apparently had some women. The questions to ask a religious person reading probably assumes that the story has some omitted facts. For me, the story line gives clues to ancient peoples, and is just mightily intriguing to ponder what these geneaologies might actually record. The myth is more powerful for me than questons it were a straight factual accounting.

I actually think I remember some Jewish midrash on the subject, but I would never be able to find it. Where are the Jews on LT? But to add my humorous response, I guess that is why we are too messed up, all that incestuousness from the beginning. Had to throw that out, and I put the smiley.

BTW this discussion of early Genesis gives me another question - How was there light without lights? If lights were not needed, why were they installed afterwards? I am going to like this topic. Deesirings As an aside, I personally do not really needing a massage up the use of the term literal to a fundamentalist reading.

The scriptures are literally a myth, a personal theology, a poem, a history, a legend, a midrash, a vision. For me a literal reading is not when a passage is taken for what it is not. I know that I am alone in this, and I am not trying to enter a semantical debate or to steer into a new thread.

It is just a point that I try to make when discussing such things. Making a scriptural passage other than it is, petson just not right in my mind. The reader should try to understand what type of material is being read, as well as the original audience and possibly the original source for the extant writing.

Richard, by coincidence I have been looking for Jewish, Judaic and Hebrew in the Complete groups listbecause I wondered whether there might be recruiting ground for your Isaiah group.

There are Jews. We can't questions to ask a religious person that one to bash the first Genesis creation myth — unfortunately: Jun 30,9: I appreciate all the help I can.

I actually questjons some real questions needing some experts. When I started looking for groups to join some few weeks ago, I looked for the Jewish groups.

Did not find any. There are some Jewish groups on LT, e. But I escort service alexandria va know how active they are. Jun 30,ak Essa, Thanks. I joined a couple of the Jewish groups, and scanned the essay in your link. Will go back later to read more closely.

Will perspn visit the pagan website. Maybe they have an RSS. The thing that always bothers me about the Adam and Eve story is Adam pointing all the blame to Eve. What a guy! We totally start with a fresh set of incestuous progeny. I do not know if that puts the pagans back to beholding to the Jehovah's Witnesses, or not.

On the other hand, I think the whole second creation myth was originally meant as a beautiful couples wants group sex Charleston. I'll put this argument to HH sometime when I get round to it.

I like blame the woman. The Timothy thing is a little tougher, given the issue of Pauline authorship. Of course someone wrote it. What's wrong with fig trees? Why doesn't Satan get some iron chariots? I did read, in my misspent youth, some fascicles of The Fundamentals and some other views.

I'm reading Jung's Answer to Job which is a psychoanalysis of Yahweh through the dreams revelations of his prophets. Jung was big on dream analysis. Seems that Job got the upper hand over "Y" in terms of morality, "Y" decided he had to become human to get some of that, which eventuated some years later, c.

Jung cites precursors of this event that go way back to antediluvian times, Enoch and those guys. Well, the biggest thing going then, literally, was the Nephilim there were giants in those days. Seems that the "sons of God" divine beings who belonged to the heavenly court "saw that the daughters of men were fair; and they took to wife such of them as they chose. It's good to be king--or one of the sons of God. This also helps explain progenization without incest--infusion of a few pearly drops from those hieing from the pearly gates.

You can't make this stuff up! Some of this must be anathema to the religious right, but maybe not--the human capacity for rationalization knows no bounds. Jul 4, As Jodie Foster's character, Ellie, asked in Contact: Jul 16,2: I think Adam couldn't control.

It was rape and his word against hers Why isn't there any really useful information in the bible I mean it is the word of questions to ask a religious person right?

That's all God had to say? Not any gardening tips, no ideas on how to build earthquake-proof homes, how to build an airplane, no low calorie quick family favorite recipes Google provides more information that God or the Bible! Eve did get the blame. It is a little embarrassing to me that the first studman hid behind his woman. The ideas that are conveyed by "word of God" are many, as were the human authors. A Rabbi once told me that if God had actually dictated the book, as some understand the word of God concept, then He would have written a better book.

I think I agree with the rabbi. We are stuck with the questions to ask a religious person version of the word st croix escort God. Or, I should say, you people who believe are stuck with it. Not the rest of us. It had been suggested that I get emoticon training.

The semi colon is a wink, the paranthesis is a smile, the o is a big smile or surprise? The best emoticon for me that I found has the 8 for questions to ask a religious person on the forehead.

That is how I spend most on my day - glasses on the forehead. Personally, I think it is time to start. The Jews, questions to ask a religious person I think a good number of Christians, understand God's word questions to ask a religious person an ongoing experience, finding renewed expression in each generation.

Being reworked and reworded and reinterpreted as we move on. For the Jews there is the unwritten Torah, and a developing and questions to ask a religious person tradition, beginning with the Mishnah, and continuing through present day. Development and continuity with the past, rather than a "do. So, where are the 'development and continuity' if no new tulsa you were smoking a cig female worker have been written in the last 2, years?

Where are the 'Newer Testament' and the 'Newest Testament? Jul 9, My questions to ask a religious person reference is to Judaism with the Mishnah, the Gemera, the Talmud, Mishneh Torah, the Shulkah Aruk, and many more developments since - writings in Europe, with the growth of Judaism in America, with the Reform and other movements. And I mentioned the oral Torah, which is not written.

With Episcopal and Anglican movements we have the Lambeth Conference every 10 years and the Book of Common Prayer, revised twice in the 20th century with a new one coming soon.

Many more instances of growth, development, and new expression. I am far from expert in Church history, and less so in the history of other faiths. The bible itself has been subject to new interpretations and understanding of its authority and message with each generation. For Christians, the scripture stopped with the canonical aks about Jesus.

That was certainly sex chat date the limit on scripture for Muslims, or Hindus, or Buddhists, or Jews. I am not sure if we are speaking of people of faith or of Christians, and if Christians - questions to ask a religious person, or a select.

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Just not sure who the "you people" includes. By 'you people' I meant those who center their lives around the bible, so I mean mainly non-Roman Catholic Christians. Many American Christians don't even consider Roman Catholics to be fellow Christians, questions to ask a religious person some reason I have never bothered exploring questions to ask a religious person depth.

I wasn't questioning the quedtions of the mountains of 'new interpretations and understandings. I was wondering why your 'holy book' stopped incorporating these new writings so long ago. I was excited because I cannot remember being classed as a "you people".

This may be my. As for this question, I suspect you man of god quotes know that answer since you rdligious of "the mountains of new interpretations and understandings.

Nothing has been added I suspect because the institutional churches do not think that more of the best of the 1st century accounts of Jesus and his immediate followers have been. There is some differences in the treatment of the canon from church to reeligious, especially if the Mormons are included.

Plenty scholarship has reconsidered non canonical texts as far as their ability to shed light on the 1st century activities qeustions Jesus and his immediate followers. Bishop Spong is probably in the forefront of questions to ask a religious person quesyions may be getting at. As far as scholarship, I personally like James Robinson, among. There is a lot ssk done to gain insights wuestions other texts into the 1st century activity of Jesus and his immediate followers, but nothing more will questions to ask a religious person be added to the canon as we probably have all of the 1st questions to ask a religious person accounts that will be accepted as the best witnesses.

Of course, there remains much scholarly debate over many of the texts as to their precise dating and authorship. I still see no proof of these new 'developments' you mention in I see the same breed of dog chewing over the same tired two thousand year old bones.

Maybe the newer dogs have a different pattern of spots, or even come with more appealing or trendy coats of fur, but they still bark and howl the same as. Text online. The fact that old institutions have closed canons doesn't mean God isn't writing! Says Beautiful couples ready sex Burlington You're no Mason, how the hell would you know?

And are you defining god as whatever it is that sparks creativity? Jul 9,1: Isaiah replied. Then Ezekiel said. Oh, so Blake's word is now widely perdon as truth?

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As much as I appreciated reading his works in graduate school I still don't see anything of his tacked on after Revelations in recent copies hottest girls in australia the bible Jul 9,2: Isn't the tendency among Xians these days rather to throw out questions to ask a religious person and more old scripture than to produce new? As secular advances in morality and scientific advances in knowledge occur, more and more of the previously revered texts have to be somehow explained away.

Our friend Richard is basically questions to ask a religious person of us. He pays lip service to old doctrines, but mostly goes with modern views: You had asked after my definition of God in the current context, and I thought Blessed Bill Blake summed it up better than I ever. Jul 9,3: Plus dating sites, he summed it up quite well, but I think we got off track. I really wasn't asking if you personally define god as creativity.

I'm still wondering how anyone can take any of the bible as the word of god, even filtered through men's minds. It's simply a bunch of myths and fairy tales. A good look at The Book of Mormon or Dianetics prove just how easy it is to make up shit and hope people believe it.

And I think that the Genius inspiring them is evident in the Quran. Institutional "Christians" tend to be more interested in their musty doctrines and their outmoded consequences than whatever their God has been up to more recently. I have a great deal of respect for myths and fairy tales. And I wouldn't dignify Hottest sex websites with either term! And if I felt particularly pedantic, I could point out that it's more like years.

It's like saying all of Hinduism is contained in the Vedas. There are some Christians who say all of Christianity is found between the covers of their Bible, but really, that is more a phenomenon of the last century or so. The myriad forms of Christianity that have evolved over two millennia have created plenty of traditions and practices that may be only marginally connected to That Book. That said, as a Neopagan, I don't hold much with Sacred Scripture.

As one of my friends once said, we questions to ask a religious person believe revelation has ended, but that it is ongoing, and found in nature. When I am feeling mischievous who, me? I might also quote from a song questions to ask a religious person passed around twenty years ago or so: We have no book that's holy, No one book we follow solely, But we have Aleister Crowley, And that's good enough for me.

Jul 9,5: Have you even looked at topic of this thread? It's "Questions to drive religious people crazy" and I questions to ask a religious person to have found one that's working quite nicely. Aleister Crowley is the pagan equivalent of L.

Ron Hubbard. Sexy black ebony babes will worship Aphrodite, 'Though she's kind of wild and flighty - We will see her in her 'nighty And that's good enough for me! We will sing a verse for Loki, He's the old Norse god of Chaos, Which is why this verse don't rhyme or scan or nothin' But it's good enough for me Jim, Questions to ask a religious person actually typed and deleted in my 72 a very similar thought.

I deleted it because I do not think we are in danger of the institutional churches removing any be naughty live chat Chesapeake Virginia from the canon.

I have been accused of picking and choosing among scriptural statements. And that is probably accurate. Depending on my mood of contentiousness I have responded that the contrary position is to pick and choose among the sciences. My scriptural selections are guided by contemporary scholarship and an earnest attempt to read specific scriptures based on the type of writing they are.

What is the basis for selecting among the sciences? That said, I place a high value on all scriptures. I have not studied sufficiently the scriptures of other religions than Christianity orange county date ideas Judaism, but on the present and historic witness of the many believers of these faiths I accept the profoundness of their scriptures.

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I actually have not studied the scriptures of Christianity and Judaism sufficiently. Regarding the questions to ask a religious person of adding to the NT scriptures, I really thought I had answered.

The NT is primarily foundational 1st century letters, myths, gospels, stories, legends, accounts, visions. I doubt that these 1st century writings will have questions to ask a religious person additions. I do not think we will discover anymore 1st century writings that will be considered for the canon. The foundational documents are foundational documents. Most faiths all faiths that I have investigated have ongoing revelatory writings, but not ongoing foundational documents. Jim I am honored that you used the word friend in reference to me.

That includes churches as well as governments. Only I have no real alternative to offer. What is the song? Much of theology lies outside of my faith experience. I am a person of faith. The more I learn, the questions to ask a religious person my faith grows. That includes what I have learned here on HH, and I have learned a great deal from this group.

Scripture is part of my faith experience. When I joined HH, I asked permission. I am a guest here, for fun and for gain. I do apologize for whatever I wrote to cause such a resort. Jul 9,8: I did not call ancient scriptures shit or any religious faiths shit. I called them myths and fairy tales. I did use the expression 'make up shit' when I was referring to the writing of both The Book of Mormon and to Dianetics in particular.

Well, that statement would surely drive a Scientologist crazy. For a Thelemite, it would probably provoke guffaws. If Scientology is organized religion, Thelema and Neopaganism in general is truly dis organized religion.

Crowley, c. BTW 'Make up shit' and 'making shit up' are slang terms for, well, here You have been making and continue to make valuable contributions to HH discussions. I also don't think we will see major churches removing books from the canon: Basically, we check whether what is proposed agrees with observation.

As clamairy has pointed out, "make need clouds hit me up up" is a technical term. But in view of the enormous harm that reliance on sacred texts causes, you shouldn't ukraine gay marriage too surprised if people in this group should sometimes resort to intemperate language.

Jim, That is my sometimes response when I apostolic singles network charged with picking and choosing scripture. When feeling contentious, I might respond by explaining the grounds for my selection of scripture, and follow with a question about their grounds for their selection of which sciences they choose to accept.

They being my accuser. It is probably more of an argumentative, rhetorical question. In other words, I am suggesting that if I am choosing from among questions to ask a religious person writings, they are choosing from among the sciences.

My question then is about the grounds for that selection. And, what do you know? So do I. Jul 10,6: Look at me; I'm Are you talking about people who place "revealed truth" above er So they might accept that rain falls from the clouds, but not that dew condenses out of the air?

Jul 10,8: Jim, Not trying to get into a discussion of the authority of scripture, and what that might mean to me or to.

We can do that, but you know me - another topic. To clarify what I meant in the second paragraph of persn, let's take the topic of evolution for instance. And I sure do not want to start a discussion on evolution.

That one wore me out, and I am now working on physics and Isaiah. Still amazed that questions to ask a religious person can talk about a meson stopping and disintegrating when it has a life span of something like -8 power of 10 seconds.

How can something be said to come to a stop in that length of time? Anyway, let's take evolution and Genesis. If I accept that Genesis 2 is a collection of myths on the basis of critical scholarship and based on that selection I relugious and understand that piece of scripture questions to ask a religious person certain way, taking my lessons and meaning from it as a myth. I am selecting scripture, and have given my grounds for selecting scripture.

It is not the same say as a poem from Isaiah or an account from 1 Kings or a saying of Jesus or a verse from Paul. Just not the same type of writing, not the same source, purpose, audience, not the. Someone who challenges that selection and the principle of that selection and indicates that I am treating various scriptures differently, picking and choosing so to speak, and that all scripture is inspired and should be taken equally He picks questions to ask a religious person, but not biology.

He picks that cars run and that lighst come on, but not evolution, maybe not astrophysics. It has been well established on HH that I am not expert on the scientific method, but in my mind that method has produced results in all the various sciences. So I ask, sometimes, when charged with picking and local sex Denton Maryland between scriptures, for which selection I provide my grounds, "on what basis do you pick and choose between sciences.

At least I hope that I do not do. Persom is not what I tell horny women in Santee, SD I am doing. My grounds for how I take scripture are more what critical scholarship tells me about the provenance of its writing, its literary type, its audience, its source.

What queshions scripture has in the way of authority is a further question. My only point in that comment in 86 is that in some cases when the charge is made that I pick and choose scripture, I counter with a charge that the other person is picking and choosing science.

That is probably a fair statement of what I attempted to write, only your version is much shorter, and Questions to ask a religious person have not qurstions any who would deny condensation, but who knows. Actually, I've seen claims here that the opposite has occurred. That in the past much of the Bible was understood as allegory and only in the last years or so some groups have claimed that it is all fact.

I suspect that those who first promulgated those claims were simply lying italian seks looking for fun Questions to ask a religious person, and that they have been gratefully accepted by the mass of unthinking Xians.

Jul 10,religiosu On the subject of gay grantham condensing out of the air: Based on Gen 2: This thread is driving me crazy. See topic title My argue may not follow, but seems to fit the point I am trying to make in the response. The charge is that I am not consistent with the interpretation of questions to ask a religious person.

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My response is that they are not consistent in acknowledging the findings of science. As far as the mist, I will look at the Hebrew tonight. I have read that in the Hebrew before, but do not remember any language issues that came to mind. But I still don't know who you are talking. Who accuses you of inconsistent interpretation of scripture, who are not consistent in acknowledging the findings of science?

Jim, I actually think my argument is more consistent and logical than. And it is far less common an occurrence than might be inferred from the what more you want of our discussion of it today. There are times and there are people who, questions to ask a religious person I am discussing a piece of scripture with them, might challenge my interpretation to say that I am choosing to give one scripture more weight than.

Their comment might be that I am picking women only websites choosing scripture. Replying, questions to ask a religious person appropriate to the particular scripture and when I am feeling contentious enough, that their position requires that they are picking and choosing which sciences to accept, seems more consistent to me than it apparently appears to you.

It may be that I did not suggest initially that the argument is more appropriate for particular scriptures and discussions than for.

And it is not something I always use, just seems at times the appropriate retort. And one I have used, on occasion. I questions to ask a religious person that it is more pointed than "oh yeah, well you too, so. But then again, maybe not. Jul 10, questions to ask a religious person, 2: Richard, this "picking and choosing which sciences to accept" thing is unfamiliar to me, except in the case I suggested above, of religious people placing their favourite superstitions above scientific results.

Do you have other examples? In order to clarify your own approach, can I suggest a particular piece of scripture as a concrete case? How would you approach Gen 7: Tagged with: General Street Epistemology.

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